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mash2014
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Why is it that when guys admit getting turned on by a cock or another man they always make sure the reader knows he isn’t gay?
I think that's judging too quickly. Men throughout history have had homosexual encounters with other men, but it's been stigmatized as something wrong in the last few centuries.
I read some time ago a study done that most men's first sexual encounter was with another man; touching or masturbating or even having full-blown sex. From what I have read in this forum, most of us are not the exception. Some of us get excited seeing or reading about another mas penis or fantasize about blowing another man. There's nothing wrong with it but why do some want to make sure they aren't gay?
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I can't speak for anyone else, including the guys who are attracted to men/dick but who say they aren't gay, but my impressions are that some people see being gay as a lifestyle and they may be attracted to men, but don't connect with their idea of what being gay means: dancing on speakers at a club and going to brunch with other gay men, going to drag shows, etc. They may identify with what they think are more traditional roles: dad, head of household, bro. And that's who they are and where they feel comfortable. They just also find masculine "bonding" intoxicating. But they couldn't see themselves being in a relationship with another man, as in dating them and setting up a household together.

And I'm sure that's not everyone's story, so anyone else weigh in. I'm interested in the subject too, and I'm open to and respect how anyone feels about sex and attraction and labels. I'm just trying to help keep the conversation going. I'm no expert, so please be kind if disagree with me or think I'm full of shit.
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A lot of guys are openly gay, but that doesn't mean you should try.
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I think the first experience with another male could be true, but only because when young we never did enjoy girls company. I can still look at another cock picture and decide it looks good, bad or average, but I never even think of touching it.
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People did not recognize the existence of gays for a long time, but throughout history, there have been men who liked men too. I am glad that today anyone can say they are gay, and no one will judge them for it. I hope that soon all people will understand that it is normal. I didn't know I was gay for a long time, but I noticed that gay porn made my dick horny one day. Then I was looking at pictures here https://www.dickhardon.com/ and realized I was gay. My parents said I was a brave man because I told everyone about it.
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There was such stigma around being gay for such a long time that curiosity about or arousal by other men had to be compartmentalized in an “experiments” box for a guy to maintain his self-image as heterosexual.

For myself, one of my first sexual experiences in early 1980’s, other than an unsuccessful attempt to have sex with a girl who invited me (thankfully, in retrospect, could have been trouble) was with a male friend, who, after we had made a pyramid of our empty beer cans, proposed we try anal sex, with me on the bottom. I was game, and we tried, But I was i think fearful of what it would “mean” about my sexuality so I couldn’t relax enough for him to enter me. After that I was full of wondering if trying that meant I was gay. I later decided I was something equivalent to bi-curious.
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I have read there is a difference in being gay and homosexual erotica. Gay is homosexual loving, kissing, attraction, lovemaking; where homosexual erotica is none of the above, but erotic fondling, maybe oral, but not much else from the list above. I see on this site, all in or just wanting to play and no desire otherwise. Its complicated.
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It probably started way back when gays were burnt at the stake alongside witches and devil worshippers (“fag” means “burning stick”). It became a survival mechanism to insist that you are not gay. That reaction seems to have become ingrained in our culture now. Where being gay is leaving yourself open to prejudice and descrmination.
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I hate getting assumed I am gay because i shave my cock and balls.

I am heterosexual and love my ladies. Just feels better for me and her!
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I have what I think is a cumshot fetish. I have never felt interested in seeing a guy naked but would always prefer a cock sticking out of his zipper or in a glory hole arangement. The only male bodies I don't feel an aversion to would be a thinner, smoother, hairless guy. But that's not an aversion to vs an attraction towards. That being said watching a guy cum is hot and even the idea of jerking or maybe even oral seems erotic. But cuddling or ass or anything more than mentioned above would not be stimulating to me.
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Before I knew anything about anything, I had a few experiences as a boy/tween with a close friend touching our penises together and later I grabbed/squeezed his dick through his clothes a few times. Later, as a young teen I fondled a friend's erect penis (with two other boys watching). I acted out of curiosity in the moment and for the most part didn't plan to do these things (although a few times I started the "let's pretend we are making out with a girl" game that I knew might lead to me touching my friend's dick through his clothes).

As I said, I didn't even know enough about sex to think of what I was doing as gay or otherwise. After these few encounters, I moved on to focus on girls like most other horny/curious teen boys.

To make a longer story short, as I have matured I have wanted to expand my horizons a bit after talking with female friends who had same-sex experiences (or fantasies). We found that sharing our fantasies really spiced things up. I wanted to be open minded and try new things, so with the encouragement of one of these friends, I had my first mutual masturbation/jack off experience with another man which I happily shared with her.

Due to a number of factors, such as it took place in an erotically charged ABS, I had just engaged in mutual cock play with a man for the first time, I was openly jacking off for an anonymous stranger while he watched, I had one of my most mind blowing orgasms with another person male or female. That's how it started (and how I began writing about the experiences which I have posted on ST) and a big part of why I continue to look for opportunities to touch/fondle other men's cocks and masturbate with only other men present. When alone, I fantasize about doing all sorts of things with men, but when I actually have the opportunity I think my boundary is set at mutual cock play, jacking off while men watch, and jacking off while I watch other men. I want to experience sucking cock and tasting another man's semen, but I'm not there yet ...

Now I like to masturbate to male-male focused porn (I love seeing cocks and cumshots whether its from men having sex with women, blowjobs/handjobs from other men, or from men jacking off), and going to places where I might jack off around other men or engage in mutual touching/fondling. I enjoy it because its different, maybe taboo/pervy, but super exciting in the moment. No doubt the moment I touched another man's penis some people would say I was gay, but I just want to push my personal boundaries a little and have some kinky fun.
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When I was around 8-9 I had a sexual experience with a 13-year-old girl. I knew what was happening but I didn't understand much of it. I remember entering her but I felt nothing.
Fast forward some 7 years and I went to a friend's house. We drank and we had sex in the sense we did a 69 and came into each others mouth. I was so drunk, it all is a blur. I started doubting my masculinity. So I started fucking any and all girls that walked in front of me. I felt I had to prove myself that I wasn't gay. Then, mid-20s, under the influence of drugs and alcohol I had another male-to-male blow job session. This time I didn't feel guilty but I knew it had been with the wrong person. Later in life, I met a young man, about 25ish while I was in my mid to late 30s and I fell for him. Nothing ever happened but I felt a very strong sense of attraction and arousal when I was near him. He was a very attractive man and I fantasized about having an affair with him to the point I would be willing to go all the way with him. For me, it was an opening to my true sexuality. I started to look more at certain men I would find somewhat attractive. Shortly after I saw a picture of a cock. It was beautiful. Hard, cut and ejaculating.
My masturbation sessions are now mixed with men and women. They still are.
I don't consider myself gay or bi. I consider I can find a man attractive to the point I can fantasize about him.
When I joined ST I realized I wasn't alone. A lot of men felt the same way I was feeling.
I'm not afraid or embarrassed to masturbate thinking of men or women. My fantasies are mine and I will let them have a life of their own when I masturbate.
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I'm not gay, or even curious. But I find it interesting that so many men obviously are.
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Anyone who has to ask the question themselves, is probably half way there.
I don't mind bi-sexuality; known several gay ppl as friends and family; but even they said they cant take the 'queen' approach to life... so it varies even among the afflicted.
I knew one guy who quite literally women asked to have sex with him!
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